{"id":2860,"date":"2025-06-30T14:17:33","date_gmt":"2025-06-30T11:17:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/?p=2860"},"modified":"2025-07-01T16:40:31","modified_gmt":"2025-07-01T13:40:31","slug":"arutama-arutlema","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/arutama-arutlema\/","title":{"rendered":"arutama, arutlema"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tuletis <em><strong>arutama<\/strong><\/em><strong><em> <\/em>\u2018aru pidama, millessegi selgust tooma\u2019<\/strong> on s\u00f5nast <em>aru<\/em>, mis omakorda on samat\u00fcveline s\u00f5naga <em>arv<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P\u00f5hjaeestikeelsetes tekstides on <em>arutama <\/em>\u2018aru pidama\u2019 kasutusele tulnud alles 19. sajandi teisel poolel, kusjuures v\u00e4listada ei saa rahvaet\u00fcmoloogilist seost s\u00f5naga <em>harutama<\/em>, mida tollases keeles nii h\u00e4\u00e4ldati kui ka kirjutati ilma <em>h-<\/em>ta. Enne seda, kui verb <em>arutama<\/em> ilmub tekstidesse selgelt t\u00e4nap\u00e4evases t\u00e4henduses, kasutatakse seda lausetes, kus m\u00f5eldav on ka piltlik <em>harutama<\/em>, n\u00e4iteks <em>N\u00fc\u00fcd arrutawad teised neid s\u00f6nno<\/em> \u2018n\u00fc\u00fcd (h)arutavad teised neid s\u00f5nu\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/dea.digar.ee\/article\/pernopostimees\/1861\/01\/11\/3\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/dea.digar.ee\/article\/pernopostimees\/1861\/01\/11\/3\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Perno Postimees 11.01.1861, lk 10<\/a>). T\u00e4nap\u00e4eva keeleski on ju sarnane piltlik kasutus v\u00f5imalik, nt <em>mingit pikemat m\u00f5ttek\u00e4iku algusest l\u00f5puni lahti harutama<\/em>. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L\u00f5unaeestikeelsetes tekstides on aga juba 17. sajandil olemas tuletis <strong><em>ar(v)utelema<\/em><\/strong>, mida on kasutatud kahes t\u00e4henduses: <strong>\u2018arutlema, m\u00f5tlema\u2019<\/strong> ja <strong>\u2018ennustama, n\u00f5iduma, posima\u2019<\/strong>. L\u00f5unaeesti keeles s\u00f5naalguse <em>h<\/em> \u00fcldiselt s\u00e4ilis, nii et p\u00f5hjaeesti keelega sarnast <em>arutama <\/em>ja <em>harutama <\/em>segiminekut ei saanud toimuda, k\u00fcll aga v\u00f5isid siin seguneda vanast alggermaani laenust <em>arp<\/em> \u2018n\u00f5iatrumm vm n\u00f5idumisvahend\u2019 tuletatud <em>arbuma<\/em>\/<em>arbutama<\/em>\/<em>arbutelema<\/em> ja t\u00fcvest <em>arv<\/em>\/<em>aru<\/em> tuletatud <em>arvutama<\/em>\/<em>arvutelema<\/em> (n\u00f5rgaastmelises t\u00fcves <em>arbu<\/em>\u2013 on v\u00f5imalik <em>t <\/em>ees muutus <em>b <\/em>&gt; <em>v<\/em>). T\u00e4henduste \u00fchisosa on eesolevale m\u00f5tlemine, tuleviku seletamine. S\u00f5na <em>arutelema <\/em>t\u00e4henduses \u2018ennustama\u2019 on oma p\u00f5hjaeesti s\u00f5nastikku v\u00f5tnud ka G\u00f6seken (1660), nii et kuigi seda p\u00f5hjaeesti tekstides teadaolevalt ei leidu, ei ole tegemist ainult l\u00f5unaeesti s\u00f5naga.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"accordion-block mb-3\">\n\t\t<div class=\"accordion \" id=\"accordion-accordion-69d46a8f098ea\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion-item accordion-item--white\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"accordion-header\" id=\"accordion-69d46a8f098ea-heading-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<button class=\"accordion-button collapsed\" type=\"button\" data-bs-toggle=\"collapse\" data-bs-target=\"#accordion-69d46a8f098ea-collapse-1\" aria-expanded=\"true\" aria-controls=\"accordion-69d46a8f098ea-collapse-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tT\u00e4hendused ja n\u00e4itelaused\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/button>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"accordion-69d46a8f098ea-collapse-1\" class=\"accordion-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"accordion-69d46a8f098ea-heading-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion-body\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5>arutama<\/h5>\n<p><small>Aeg <strong>arrutab<\/strong> sassis meled. (<a href=\"https:\/\/dea.digar.ee\/article\/eestipostimees\/1868\/05\/15\/2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eesti Postimees 15.05.1868<\/a>)<\/small><br>\n<small>Kahe n\u00e4dala eest t\u00f5i Eesti Postimees kuulutuse Eesti Aleksandri-koolist. Et k\u00fcl asja seekord \u00f5ige pitkalt <strong>arutati<\/strong>, siiski oli w\u00f5imata, k\u00f5ik \u00fchekorraga posti pauna panna, mis p\u00e4\u00e4komiteel ehk weel \u00fctelda on. (<a href=\"https:\/\/dea.digar.ee\/page\/eestipmlisa\/1871\/12\/15\/2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Eesti Postimehe lisaleht 15.12.1871<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n<h5>arvotelema \u2018ennustama\u2019<\/h5>\n<p><small>Se s\u00fcndi enge, Kui meije lezime Palwusselle, tulli \u00fctz neuzick meille w. Kumbal \u00fctte Arbia Waim olli, n. Kumb suhrt Kaswo o\u2308mm\u2309ille Isandille sahtis <strong>arrotelleman<\/strong>. (<a href=\"https:\/\/arhiiv.eki.ee\/piibel\/index.php?tekst=tutv_guts\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EPAK, Gutslaff 1648?\u20131656?<\/a>)<br>\n\u2018Aga s\u00fcndis, et kui me l\u00e4ksime palvepaika, tuli meile vastu orjatar, kellel oli lausuja vaim, see t\u00f5i oma isandatele palju kasu <strong>ennustamisega<\/strong>.\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/piibel.net\/ap-16.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ap 16:16<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n<h5>arvotelema \u2018arutlema, m\u00f5tlema\u2019<\/h5>\n<p><small>Kui mina ennast mahha heitsin, sis \u00fctlin mina: Millost ma saan \u00fclles tausma? nink perrast <strong>arwotelisin<\/strong> mina, Millost \u00d6hto peaks saama? Sest mina ollin igga Mehhelle \u00e4rra T\u00fcljastamisseks, senni kui Pimme saj. (<a href=\"https:\/\/arhiiv.eki.ee\/piibel\/index.php?tekst=tutv_virg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EPAK, Virginiused 1687-1690<\/a>)<br>\n\u2018Kui ma magama heidan, siis ma m\u00f5tlen: \u201cMillal v\u00f5in t\u00f5usta?\u201d ja kui olen \u00fcles t\u00f5usnud, siis: \u201cMillal tuleb \u00f5htu?\u201d Ma olen koiduni t\u00e4is rahutust.\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/piibel.net\/ii-7.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ii 7:4<\/a>)<\/small><br>\n<small>K\u00fcl nida m\u00f6tlewa nemm\u00e4 essi nink ka mu Jnnimisse, kumma w\u00e4lj\u00e4stpidditsit Ello-Kombid kaewa: Ent Jummal kaep S\u00f6\u00e4me sisse, nink ne Jnnimisse <strong>arwotellewa<\/strong> ennege sedd\u00e4, mes Silmi een om. (<a href=\"https:\/\/vakk.ut.ee\/tekstid.php?lk=24&amp;kood=1792-Raudiall\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Raudiall 1792<\/a>)<br>\n\u2018K\u00fcll n\u00f5nda m\u00f5tlevad nemad ise ja ka teised inimesed, kes v\u00e4liseid elukombeid vaatavad. Ent Jumal vaatab s\u00fcdamesse ning inimesed arutlevad vaid seda, mis on silma ees.\u2019<\/small><\/p>\n<h5>arvoteleja \u2018posija, n\u00f5id\u2019<\/h5>\n<p><small>Sinno se\u00e4n ei pe\u00e4 mitte l\u00f6it\u00e4m\u00e4 , ke\u00e4 omma Poija ehk T\u00fctt\u00e4rt lassep l\u00e4bbi Tulle minn\u00e4 , ehk Tundja , ehk Kaeja, ehk Lausja, ehk Lummaja, ehk N\u00f6id, ehk <strong>Arwotelleja<\/strong>, ehk W\u00f6lhu, ehk ke\u00e4 Kooljist k\u00fcssip. (<a href=\"https:\/\/vakk.ut.ee\/tekstid.php?lk=12&amp;kood=1787-Fr%C3%B6lich\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Fr\u00f6lich 1787<\/a>)<br>\n\u2018\u00c4rgu leidugu su keskel kedagi, kes laseb oma poega ja t\u00fctart tulest l\u00e4bi k\u00e4ia, ei ennustajat, pilvestlausujat, m\u00e4rkide seletajat<br>\nega n\u00f5ida, ei manajat, vaimude ja tarkade k\u00fcsitlejat ega surnutelt n\u00f5u otsijat!\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/piibel.net\/5ms-18.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">5Ms 18:10<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"accordion-block mb-3\">\n\t\t<div class=\"accordion \" id=\"accordion-accordion-69d46a8f09cbf\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion-item accordion-item--white\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"accordion-header\" id=\"accordion-69d46a8f09cbf-heading-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<button class=\"accordion-button collapsed\" type=\"button\" data-bs-toggle=\"collapse\" data-bs-target=\"#accordion-69d46a8f09cbf-collapse-1\" aria-expanded=\"true\" aria-controls=\"accordion-69d46a8f09cbf-collapse-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tEsmaesinemus\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/button>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"accordion-69d46a8f09cbf-collapse-1\" class=\"accordion-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"accordion-69d46a8f09cbf-heading-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion-body\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5>1648?\u20131656?<\/h5>\n<p><small>Enge \u00fctz mehs, Simon Nimme, olli onnetu tah lihna sissen, <strong>arrotelli<\/strong>, n. K\u00e4hndis se Samaria Rahgwa meelet erra, n. \u00fctlis, eth t. \u00fctz suhr mehs olles. (<a href=\"https:\/\/arhiiv.eki.ee\/piibel\/index.php?tekst=tutv_guts_ut\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">EPAK, Gutslaff 1648?\u20131656?<\/a>)<br>\n\u2018Aga \u00fcks mees, Siimon nimi, oli juba varem selles linnas ja n\u00f5idus ning pani Samaaria rahvast jahmuma, \u00f6eldes end kellegi suure olevat.\u2019 (<a href=\"https:\/\/piibel.net\/ap-8.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ap 8:9<\/a>)<\/small><\/p>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n\n\n<div class=\"accordion-block mb-3\">\n\t\t<div class=\"accordion \" id=\"accordion-accordion-69d46a8f09e74\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion-item accordion-item--white\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"accordion-header\" id=\"accordion-69d46a8f09e74-heading-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<button class=\"accordion-button collapsed\" type=\"button\" data-bs-toggle=\"collapse\" data-bs-target=\"#accordion-69d46a8f09e74-collapse-1\" aria-expanded=\"true\" aria-controls=\"accordion-69d46a8f09e74-collapse-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\tVanades s\u00f5nastikes\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/button>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/h2>\n\t\t\t\t\t<div id=\"accordion-69d46a8f09e74-collapse-1\" class=\"accordion-collapse collapse \" aria-labelledby=\"accordion-69d46a8f09e74-heading-1\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"accordion-body\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<h5>Stahl 1637<\/h5>\n<p><small> \u2014 <\/small><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Gutslaff 1648<\/h5>\n<p><small> wicken lassen <strong>Arrotelma<\/strong><\/small><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>G\u00f6seken 1660<\/h5>\n<p><small> Warsagen \/ [vaticinari] lausuma \/ <strong>arrotellema<\/strong><\/small><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Vestring 1710\u20131730<\/h5>\n<p><small> \u2014 <\/small><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Clare 1730<\/h5>\n<p><small><strong>arrotellema<\/strong> hexen.<\/small><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Thor Helle 1732<\/h5>\n<p><small> \u2014 <\/small><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Svenske 18. saj I pool<\/h5>\n<p><strong>arwotelleja<\/strong>. Zauberer.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Hupel 1818<\/h5>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 13.3333px;\"><strong>arrotelleja<\/strong>, u. <strong>arrotaja<\/strong>, Zauberer. d.[Tartu k]<br>\n<strong>arrotellema<\/strong> s.[vt.] arwotellema.<br>\n<strong>arwotellema<\/strong> zaubern, hexen; wahrsagen, Zeichen deuten. <strong>arwotelleja<\/strong> Zauberer; Zeichendeuter. d.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h5>Wiedemann 1893<\/h5>\n<p><small><strong>arbutama, -tan, tada<\/strong> (arwutama, arbitama, arpima, arutama), <em>freq<\/em>. <strong>arbutelema, -len, -lla<\/strong> <em>hexen, zaubern<\/em> (vergl. <em>arp<\/em>).<br>\n<strong>arutama, arutelema<\/strong> <em>(d)<\/em> = arbutama.<br>\n<strong>arwutama, arwutelema<\/strong> <em>(d)<\/em> = arbutama, arbutelema.<\/small><\/p>\n\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Tuletis arutama \u2018aru pidama, millessegi selgust tooma\u2019 on s\u00f5nast aru, mis omakorda on samat\u00fcveline s\u00f5naga arv. P\u00f5hjaeestikeelsetes tekstides on arutama \u2018aru pidama\u2019 kasutusele tulnud alles 19. sajandi teisel poolel, kusjuures v\u00e4listada ei saa rahvaet\u00fcmoloogilist seost s\u00f5naga harutama, mida tollases keeles &#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":167,"featured_media":2869,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[36,84,37,41],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2860","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lounaeesti-keel","category-metafoor","category-pohjaeesti-keel","category-rahvaetumoloogia"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2860","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/167"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2860"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2860\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2875,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2860\/revisions\/2875"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2869"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2860"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2860"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sisu.ut.ee\/vaks\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2860"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}